Friday, October 15, 2010

1/72 DBA Viking General Element

I'm halfway through painting a DBA viking army, III/40a. It's made up of 1/72 plastic figures by Zvezda and Emhar/Imex. This general element is all Zvezda models. The Emhar vikings are tiny bit larger that Zvezda, so for he most part I did not mix the two manufacturers on the same element. I wasn't too happy with the molded plastic flag that the above standard bearer came with, so I fashioned my own paper banner. The raven design comes from a viking coin. The official rules call for 4 models on a 20mm deep base, but I am implementing house rules. All my bases are 30mm deep with only 3 models, similar to the way Tim builds his DBA elements. The base frontage remains the standard 60mm.

I expect the full army will be painted and posted within the next week. Six elements are done, with six left to go. When finished I'll paint up an opposing 9th century Saxon army (made of Emhar/Imex models). I'm most looking forward to painting the horde element, a Saxon fyrd which will be composed of Zvezda Medieval peasant models.

I think I might also field these vikings against Vinland Indians, the IV/9 Eastern Forest American army. I suppose I have enough pre-Columbian Native American models in 1/72. I have Imex's Eastern Friendly Indians, but as the set's name suggests there are few combat poses. I own a box of Imex's Sioux Indians, which has a few bow/club/knife men. The 19th century Plains costume isn't quite right, but one must make do with what one has. I recently bought Italeri's Indian Warriors, but most models carry a musket. Maybe combining these three manufacturers will create enough variety of poses.

And, of course, I will be building a orc/goblin army with 1/72 fantasy models by Caesar.

14 comments:

Nick Grant said...

Very nicely done and quite inspirational - now I'd like a Viking army!

Nick

Alanus, Dux Homunculorum said...

I'm with Nick! Very nice work.

Cameronian said...

Nice to see these. As usual very well done. I like the 3 fig 30mm base idea. Should've thought of that, Doh! I want to do a Dark Age Scotland series of 5 armies, but can't make my mind up what scale to use. Your Vikings are pushing back towards plastics!

tim said...

Wow... those have to be some of the nicest 1/72 plastics I've ever seen! Nice dynamic poses and some nice detail (brought out by an excellent paint job!). Well done!

I am curious why, when you went with deeper bases, you chose to use less figures? My whole reason for using the deeper bases was to fit more figures on a base to make them look more like a "unit". I know others that have adopted deeper bases just so they can fit the proper number of larger 28mm figures on, or to create dioramas.

The one downside of my deeper bases is that, being 40mm deep, they tend to recoil into friendlies, expecially when contacted on teh flank of a line, (thus destroying them) more often that regular based stands would. I see you've avoided that by making yours only 30mm deep. Sometimes I wish I'd done the same... but then I wouldn't have been able to fit all the figures on - which was the whole point... so...

Andrew said...

Thanks dudes. (Now you're making me feel bad that I don't have enough models) I only based 3 because I like how it looks. I felt like 4 figures would be really crammed, even with the added depth. And it kind of make sense that a small raiding party of vikings wouldn't have a dense formation. If I do an army like the Romans, then I'll make sure to fit in a close formation of 4 per base. I always thought it was weird that there were different base widths in DBA, so I like the idea of standardizing.

tim said...

Oh I wasn't trying to make you feel bad! I was just curious. I expected it might be aesthetic or something even as mundane as "there were 36 figures in the pack..."

Andrew said...

Tim, Painting fewer total models was a plus, and I do like the look of just 3 models on a base. Basing is so permanent (sure you can re-base, but that's a pain). So, now I'm just second guessing my decision. Do you have a particular post on your blog that discusses your decision to deepen your DBA army bases?

tim said...

If you click on the "basing" or "rules" labels on my blog you'll probably find a few post on the subject... Often I have written long prattling replies to comments when someone has noticed I'm using deeper bases and asked what was up with that.

Basically I didn't like the look of the suggested bases - especially 4Bd - as it was rarely ever ranked up... a DBA army of 12 stands represents an entire army - the stands essentially represent units. A single thin line of 3-4 guys on a base just doesn't look like "unit" to me. Two ranks looks more like a unit of densely packed troops(to me at least). So, like you, it was purely an aesthetic choice.

Performance in a game has always been a secondary concern for me. Cool looking figures/units are the main priority...

tim said...

I should say - if "raiding party" is the look you're going for then definitely stick with the 3/base! My vikings I try to make look like they're in a shieldwall ready for action at Stamford Bridge or Fulford Gate!

Nick Grant said...

I wouldn't worry about it Andrew. If I remember correctly in DBM Vikings are based 3 to a 30mm deep base to represent Bd(F) So they are quite appropriately based. Apart from the fact they look coool!

Andrew said...

Thanks. I never understood why the rules called for either 4Bd or 3Bd anyway. What's the point?

tim said...

I think it has to do with how they would have been classed in the old WRG Ancients games - the idea was so anyone who had been playing those wouldn't have to re-base their figures.

Cameronian said...

According to DBM rule book 'The basing specified...is a simplified version of that used for WRG 7th and is also suitable for DBA.' The smoking gun. Also why a couple of the DBA lists have double-based elements despite DBA rules stating that double-basing is not used in DBA. I started double-basing pike elements, they fight as individuals but die together! A cheap set of DBM lists is handy as they contain a lot of supplementary information, as opposed to DBA which has none at all.

Thanos said...

Great figures, greatly painted!
Truly inspirational!
Well done mate!
T.